Buffers and you the Racattacks Story

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  1. Racattacks

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    For days the talk of the forums has been about buffers. There are a few things I have heard that are rumors popping up on the forums and I want to try to make a post to help with these. I made this post in another thread but I wanted it to be easier to find.

    Rumors.

    1. "You can't claim with alt factions" -- This is false, Bestle never said you had to claim everything with one faction.

    2. "You can claim 20 chunks, leave 1 wilderness then claim 20 more and have an "enemy" claim the one wilderness" -- This is false any type of claiming/scheming you do to get more than 20 chunks will eventually cost you.

    3. "We can build a huge sugarcane farm and call it our base so we have a 35 chunk buffer" -- This is false, what is considered your base is left up to Bestle/Skeggs/Carl. Don't push it.

    4. "Staff can be biased against the factions they are enemied with and hurt our base" -- This is false no staff have any say in buffer claims besides Bestle/Skeggs/Carl.

    5. "My ally factions can claim beside me and we can have a over a 20 chunk buffer on the sides they claim on" -- This is False no matter where your ally factions claim near you there has to be a break in the buffers for people to cannon.

    In the end this is what YOU the community wanted. People complained for months about the buffer limits and how it made the server unfun. So stop trying to get around it.

    Here is an example of a 2x2 base design with 2 factions claiming the buffers. While the main Faction claims the base and the corner claims, the second faction claims the remainder of the buffer. The buffer is still only 20 chunks from the 2x2 base and is completely legal.

    HoL1: Green and HoL2: Blue

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    While I am not the deciding factor on buffers I have spent alot of time talking this over in staff chat and thinking about the possible problems/solutions. If anybody has any questions just post them and I will try to get you an answer.

    We don't want anybody to waste their time on something that will get unclaimed and just upset people. What I suggest people do is claim the 20 chunk buffers and spend more time on Defenses.

    Goodluck in 5.0
     
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  2. Greg

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    What happens if an enemy faction comes along and claims in between yours and an ally's buffer? Will it be unclaimed by staff? I don't want our entire base unclaimed because someone who was cannoning claimed that chunk.
     
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    Beautifully put together. Its a very simple idea, those looking to complicate it and find ways around it are simply going to find themselves with parts of their buffer unclaimed without warning if done intentionally. You shouldnt have to over-think it any more than you did this map. Base = base, buffer = buffer. You can build anything you want in the buffer, fill it with walls, giant pixel-art statues of me or tnt cannons facing at your own base (not recommended) but regardless its still the buffer.

    Just try not to over-think it and if you're really having difficulty then just contact staff and they'll be able to help.
     
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    If they're close enough that this can/will occur they may find their buffer shrinking in size. If you're not foolish and leave a large enough gap there shouldn't be any problems.
     
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    This would not happen. Your whole base wouldn't be unclaimed because an enemy claimed near you. That being said I personally wouldn't risk only leaving one chunk of wilderness between claims. It will only put the decision in the staffs hands.

    If you leave 3-4 chunks between you and your allies it will not give staff any reason to unclaim cause no enemy is going to claim all of that land.
     
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    So I can make a 5x5 base longs as n/s/w/e has 20 chunks I am good right?
     
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    Thanks now mabye their won't be threads about buffers :)
     
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    Sure, as long as it is actually "base" and not some way of trying to make a larger buffer ;)
     
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    pixel art statues of you?! yeah right!
     
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    I can dream!
     
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    Thanks for making this, I'm so tired of countless buffer threads thinking of ways to get around the rule.
     
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    Dream On

     
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    Well made and very informative :)
     
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    Good thing dreams rarely come true!
     
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    Or Walmsleyy with a creeper head in their buffer
     
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    Nobody is trying to get around it. The way I saw it was people pointing out flaws and asking for clarifications on an idea that was put together poorly by Bestle...
     
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    tbh i think 10 would even be pushing it. You protect with design, not distance.

    Helpers need to watch out for people using hacked alts to spam /report on false locations just to make your lives hell in a way of repenting for making the buffer rule.

    P.S.: racattacks and legedarykayora pls mercy
     
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    That wont be a problem. :p
     
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    10?! Lol nooo
     

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